"I feel like because we haven't explored the UMM enough, we're still thinking that the UMM is a moment of unknown and you don't know unsure uncertainty right?"

"The value of hesitation is that it's a moment of protection"

"And when you have that feeling, you react. And things come out of that improvisational moments can come out of that, for me, pull it from my toolbox and come out of that. You know, I have a rich source of information in my toolbox."